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Dátum:2004.01.14, Szerda 18:44
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Tovabbra is allok amellett amit mondtam, a papagaj falkakban nem letezik aggesszio a dominicialo pozicioert mert nincs olyan hogy dominans madar a falkaban. Ha egy repdebe be-engedsz egy idegen madarat akkor azok vagy az odujukat vedik vagy a parjukat de nem azert hogy submiciora kenyszeritsek az uj jovevenyt. A vadonban a falkan belul ha van "osszetuzes" azok altalaban a szulok akik elkergetik maguktol az onallo eletre kesz fiatalokat. Meg mindig rengeteg a tevhit a papagajokkal kapcsolatban de mivel az emberek felkaptak a papagajtartast egy egyre nagyobb az erdeklodes igy most mar tudnak penzt szanni a vadonban elo papagajok kutatasaira..amiknek az eredmenye bevan tuzve: bocs hogy mind angol, nem forditom mert lenyegeben mindegyik azt tamogatja hogy nincs vezeto egyen a papagaj falkakban. Akik meg tudnak angolul azoknak erdekes olvasmanykent ajanlanam.


http://www.larimerhumane.org/services/height.cfm


http://www.vetsoftware.com/acvc2002-welle1.htm <---- ez azt mondja hogy mig parok kozott lehet egy dominalobb a falkan belul nincs dominalo/vezeto madar.

http://home.aaris.net/~nce/shoulder.htm <----Wth main interests in primates and also a considerable interest in parrots, was the director of a small wild life sanctuary for some years and has also spent a fair amount of time studying Greys in the wild, although not as part of any official research project. His view is that the notion of 'alpha' birds and flock hierarchy is populist theory with no sound basis whatsoever. He tends to consider the flock as being a amalgamation of small family units that combine together for mutual protection, with no particular birds having any 'official' higher status than others.


http://harleysperch.com/hmmm.htm

Many people believe wild parrots live in a social structure with a dominance based hierarchy. It is easy for us to believe this because dominance and aggression is basic to our own social structure. Humans often use aggression and dominance to influence the behavior of other people. It is very common to hear people talk of dominating your parrot and making sure he knows your the boss. This is a common philosophy that works better with dogs and humans than it does with birds. Dogs understand dominance because it is inherent to their social structure. Dogs are descendants of pack animals with a well defined pecking order.

For parrots, there is no hierarchy in the wild. In communal roost trees where hundreds of parrots may roost, there is often a great deal of squabbling over preferred perches, and one bird may displace another on a preferred perch. However, I have never seen any form of pecking order, nor have I ever heard of a pecking order for wild parrots described in the scientific literature. I have also talked with experts who have studied parrots in the wild for years and none of them have ever seen any form of structured hierarchy in wild parrots. Certainly there are birds that have more history of winning the competition for preferred perches and choice food items, but the hierarchy stops there and does not continue down to other members of the flock. Plus, the bird that wins an argument with one bird may just as well loose the next argument to the same bird the next time. The only time real aggression is seen is when protecting the nest territory, and then the fighting

http://www.realmacaw.com/pages/pbdom.html


http://home.aaris.net/~nce/shoulder.htm <--- His view is that the notion of 'alpha' birds and flock hierarchy is populist theory with no sound basis whatsoever. He tends to consider the flock as being a amalgamation of small family units that combine together for mutual protection, with no particular birds having any 'official' higher status than others


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